Germany Defeated Yet Again

No, it wasn’t World War III. It was the Endkampf (final battle) for Bailout III. Like, don’t these people ever get tired of surrendering?

Defeat

Europe woke up on Monday to a lot of headlines about the humiliation of Greece, the triumph of an all-powerful Germany and the subversion of democracy in Europe.

What nonsense. If anybody has capitulated, it is Germany. The German government has just agreed, in principle, to another multibillion-euro bailout of Greece — the third so far. In return, it has received promises of economic reform from a Greek government that makes it clear that it profoundly disagrees with everything that it has just agreed to.

“History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.”

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11 responses

  1. I think Germany or Germans should not be blamed. If there is the thing which will be blamed, this should be capitalist system. This system is the thing what both Germany and Greece put into this difficult situation. And the subject in here is not Germany or Germans. Subject is the people who wish to continue with the system and who run monetary policy on behalf of Germany, and the politicians who are connected with every organ to system in the European Union Parliament. Why the European Union exists? And why European Union needs the most to Germany? I think this question is important. Or why a country such as France doesn’t shoulder responsibility? Is this issue not enough polite to interest by France? But, the diamonds which are exploiting in Africa by France, it can be polite issue; really?

    The system is rotten. Today Greece, but tomorrow can be another country. And neither Greece nor Germany shouldn’t be blamed because of this system.

    • I don’t think “blame” or responsibility is the issue here. I think the ‘capitalist system’ which you decry is also not at fault. We are witnessing decades of irresponsible money management by a privileged few and watch as “social sympathy” and a desire for humane treatment delay the inevitable. “Out of Chaos Comes Order” ~ Friedrich Nietzsche **Ironic how the concept of Übermensch and eternal recurrence play out in all of this.

      • The capitalist system is the thing which creates the irresponsible money management by a privileged few, isn’t it?

        Or, while the poor is becoming poorer, if the rich is getting richer, isn’t it also a problem caused by the capitalist system? Mankind gets education in educational institutions that financed by the big bankers, actually directed by them in a sense. Mankind is trying to heal in healthcare institutions that financed by big bankers, so it is the same way, the institutions that directed by them. And there are the global monopolized corporations that financed by big bankers behind every food mankind ate, every drink mankind drunk. I guess, it is only one “air” out of the system.:)

        As result of this, the big bankers do have the right to say underhanded at managements of countries or unities over the financial system. Even they are caused to the hatred which the countries becomes to enemy with

        And you’re right this is ironic situation. Already, the humanity has a painful skill that such as to make comedy into tragedy; or opposite, to make tragedy into comedy.

      • No. Capitalism does not “create” privileged few. Capitalism is about supply and demand when properly instituted, but when government starts benefiting some companies and taking a little “interest” in that through legislation it is known as cronyism. The “guilty” are both big business which engenders such as well as government which underwrites the crime. Fair and Open competition scares the daylights out of most boards of directors. In the case of Greece, it is tipped towards the government which literally cultivated most of the problems and compounded it administration after administration and so on………………

    • Since when does the EU practice capitalism? If they did, they would have uncoupled Greece from the euro, let it go back to the drachma, and then try to grow its economy with a devalued currency (as that was about the only way, plus cleaning up corruption, that Greece could have gotten even close to some sort of parity).
      Actually, in a capitalist system, they should never have been accepted fully in; NATO and favored trading status should have been it.

      • If you asked the application of the basic theoretical sense, it has no answer. But in practice, there is a capitalism turned into a wild gear. Even if you ask wikipedie, capitalism has been since the beginning of the EU, under the title of “history of capitalism”

        I haven’t lived in any countries of the European Union for long. I have lived and continue to live in the three eastern country, one of which Russia and Turkey. I observed the capitalism from the outside of EU. There is a outside world where the children run as a slave, and both women and men marketed as goods. The things which were made by capitalism, I guess they do not impress to anyone truly.

        I do not want to enter NATO matters. But if I wanted to enter I would have mentioned at first from American energy giant Halliburton and it’s subsidiary Brown & Root Service (BRS). I would have mentioned that those companies which hold the reins of the global oil market and their agreement with the American army under LOGCAP (Logistics Civil Growth Programme) in any country of the NATO entered, as the main architect of the war in the Middle East and so many wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Albania, Bosnia, Croatia, Somalia, Uzbekistan, Kuwait, Kosovo, Zaire, etc. Halliburton’s annual revenue is $ 24.8 billion and operates in 100 countries. And it’s rent army Brown & Root Service annual revenue is $ 6 billion. Whose hands are less bloody? And yes! the capitalism is not guilty in all of them.

        I said that, “neither Greece nor Germany shouldn’t be blamed,” . Yes, I still stand by my word that, the capitalism and its creations should be blamed. It is guilty due to the brutal system which was created by capitalism in almost every country on the planet.

        But if Greece is wanted necessarily to blame, who can be stopped? After all this is already a thing what capitalism wanted.

      • One thing you learn as a teacher: never let students use Wiki as a source (it is considered unreliable to the point of not being allowed in an academic research paper…at least by instructors who value that sort of thing).
        While I agree that it was not just one actor’s fault here; I think you might need to learn a bit more than what a Wiki page tells you before you say anything else — as you may be selling your own self kinda short in the research/knowledge department.

  2. I think it also shows the world just how weak the EU actually is – or just how weak its leadership holds it to be. I wouldn’t have thought this possible. If Brussels can’t handle an orderly exit of Greece (2 percent of the European economy), what happens if any of the larger economies go tango uniform? It’s another shocking lack of leadership. None of these people will be around anymore when this third bailout goes strike three.

  3. Haliburton and Brown and Root hold the reins of the world oil market? Please! I know Dick Cheney is Darth Vader for some people. But I don’t think that the world oil market is ran by him or by Haliburton. Oil prices have gone down in the U.S. because: natural gas is being offered as a cheap alternate to oil for heating homes; because Detroit is building more fuel efficient automobiles; and because Canadian and Dakota shale oil can be refined and offered on the market for the same price as OPEC oil. Its time for Europeans to think outside the box and discover new ways to use energy other than building goofy windmills.

  4. to Jenny R.,
    “One thing you learn as a teacher: never let students use Wiki as a source (it is considered unreliable to the point of not being allowed in an academic research paper…at least by instructors who value that sort of thing).
    While I agree that it was not just one actor’s fault here; I think you might need to learn a bit more than what a Wiki page tells you before you say anything else — as you may be selling your own self kinda short in the research/knowledge department.”

    from Migarium, so from me:)

    You asked: “Since when does the EU practice capitalism?”

    I answered :”If you asked the application of the basic theoretical sense, it has no answer. ”

    The second one “But in practice, there is a capitalism turned into a wild gear.” is my opinion and it is not about any sources.

    And you commented just because of only first sentences, and wiki source.

    After then I tried to explain how I understood the events with my knowledge and the sources -Non-Wiki Source-

    and I wrote 4 paragraph and 282 words. I repeat:

    4 paragraphs and 282 words.

    I can give the source links about numbers in my comment but I do not know it would be enough for you, because they are Russians and Turkish.

    And you says that all your words are unreliable due to only one answer, only one sentences.

    Only One Answer, One Sentences.

    You didn’t read all, did you? My first sentences was not about the rest of my comment. In fact, everybody who wants to understand and see another idea, could see this. But you stuck in just one sentences. Or you read all but you chose this way; and this is worse choice.

    You Don’t Have Right to zeroing to all my ideas and my knowledge which is added with numbers in all my comment.

    Or maybe you can save both you and I from your expected answer. You can tell, you can answer with deep and academic way.

    Here is come, your big question:
    “Since when does the EU practice capitalism?”

    My expectation from you, it should be at least 500 words, it should be written with accordance academic rules and with all sources under pages:)

    Thank you! and Migarium is leaving:)

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